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(August 11,2009) White House Objects to poster that Invokes Obama Children-Washington Post

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

I think this sort of thing goes with the terriority.

thebword · Super Moderator

When Gov. Palin's young daughter Piper (and the Gov.) was made part of a 3D Full Scale interactive "art" display in NYC last year, depicting a wolf kill - everyone said "it's just art". So what if the "artist" used an exact life sized model of the 8 year old and many interacting with the "art" made her the target of the wolf kill. So what if the "art" had a high powered rifle for their interactive enjoyment - the "artist" said it was not what she intended they do with the rifle BUT if that is what they felt "artistically" moved to do - then it was all good. In the name of "art" of course.

So please - Democrat Liberals - spear us the indignation over a very vague (and yet positive) use of the President's daughters when they are alluded to in an ad poster. A poster that is to make people aware of the fact that many of our children do not have access to or the money for a healthy school lunch.

http://animalrights.about.com/b/2008/10/10/its-sarah-palin-but-is-it-art.htm

It's Sarah Palin, but is it Art?Friday October 10, 2008Artist Dawn Robyn Petrlik has created an art installation in Brooklyn, NY, featuring a cardboard cut-out of Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin. Visitors can hold a cardboard gun and have their pictures taken with likenesses of Palin and her daughter Piper, as well as a fake dead caribou. Petrlik explains, "Glorifying hunting is unnecessary, and a little scary for someone who would be our leader."Speaking of glorifying hunting, have you seenPalin's new tote bag, which says, "Real Women Hunt Moose"?Photo by Mario Tama / Getty Images

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Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

thebword wrote:

When Gov. Palin's young daughter Piper (and the Gov.) was made part of a 3D Full Scale interactive "art" display in NYC last year, depicting a wolf kill - everyone said "it's just art". So what if the "artist" used an exact life sized model of the 8 year old and many interacting with the "art" made her the target of the wolf kill. So what if the "art" had a high powered rifle for their interactive enjoyment - the "artist" said it was not what she intended they do with the rifle BUT if that is what they felt "artistically" moved to do - then it was all good. In the name of "art" of course.

So please - Democrat Liberals - spear us the indignation over a very vague (and yet positive) use of the President's daughters when they are alluded to in an ad poster. A poster that is to make people aware of the fact that many of our children do not have access to or the money for a healthy school lunch.

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STAMP I didn't see anything wrong with this add.

thebword · Super Moderator

bump. I added the link to the source and a photo of the "art".

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

That "art" is sickening. It reminds me of a similar "art exhibit" I heard about back in 1997-ish, where some "artist" made a collage of photos of JonBenet Ramsey in her pageant dresses and titled it "Daddy's Little Whore."

As for the ad, it doesn't name the Obama children or include a photo of them or refer to them in a derogatory manner, so I don't have a problem with it. Besides, it addresses an important political issue-- the government is feeding American children unhealthy food and the children of the poor are (as always) the most vulnerable. Y'all don't want to get me started on educational equality issues, but let it suffice to say that I've read all of Jonathan Kozol's books and I even went to see him in person.

Kbentleyis · Diamond

The poster makes its point. His children are not pictured and it asks a legitimate question.

This is irony and BHO deserves every bit of it. Why are his children so off limits? Because HE said so? Everyone else's are fair game.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Jen the Michigander wrote:

That "art" is sickening. It reminds me of a similar "art exhibit" I heard about back in 1997-ish, where some "artist" made a collage of photos of JonBenet Ramsey in her pageant dresses and titled it "Daddy's Little Whore."

As for the ad, it doesn't name the Obama children or include a photo of them or refer to them in a derogatory manner, so I don't have a problem with it. Besides, it addresses an important political issue-- the government is feeding American children unhealthy food and the children of the poor are (as always) the most vulnerable. Y'all don't want to get me started on educational equality issues, but let it suffice to say that I've read all of Jonathan Kozol's books and I even went to see him in person.

Isn't Jonathan Kozol the man who wrote "No Children Here" He is the man that visits the innercity and writes about their school. He came here once not so much to write about our public school because its poor because the kids here go to one of the wealthiest schools in the State but because of the failure rate and drop out rates of the kids in our community.
He also came out to our projects and checked out our afterschool program.
I read his books and think he is wonderful.

Sanders · Diamond

Yes, what's good for one is good for the other... In fact, I find the poster that makes a reference to Obama's kids far tamer in comparison than the one of Palin kid where she is made part of a shooting target.

Jen the Michigander wrote:
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As for the ad, it doesn't name the Obama children or include a photo of them or refer to them in a derogatory manner, so I don't have a problem with it. Besides, it addresses an important political issue-- the government is feeding American children unhealthy food and the children of the poor are (as always) the most vulnerable. Y'all don't want to get me started on educational equality issues, but let it suffice to say that I've read all of Jonathan Kozol's books and I even went to see him in person.

Jen, Thank you for bringing this good author to my attention. I have added two of his books to my August reading list. I already read through one for first time teachers and really like his writing style. The second book I have chosen is comparison of the economic philosophies of three renowned economists. I have put the book on re-segregation in schools into September reading as my August has gotten full, but hope to discuss with you once I read that. Thank you.

thebword · Super Moderator

Thank you Jen, I think I will be checking my library for some of his books this week.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:
Jen the Michigander wrote:

That "art" is sickening. It reminds me of a similar "art exhibit" I heard about back in 1997-ish, where some "artist" made a collage of photos of JonBenet Ramsey in her pageant dresses and titled it "Daddy's Little Whore."

As for the ad, it doesn't name the Obama children or include a photo of them or refer to them in a derogatory manner, so I don't have a problem with it. Besides, it addresses an important political issue-- the government is feeding American children unhealthy food and the children of the poor are (as always) the most vulnerable. Y'all don't want to get me started on educational equality issues, but let it suffice to say that I've read all of Jonathan Kozol's books and I even went to see him in person.

Isn't Jonathan Kozol the man who wrote "No Children Here" He is the man that visits the innercity and writes about their school. He came here once not so much to write about our public school because its poor because the kids here go to one of the wealthiest schools in the State but because of the failure rate and drop out rates of the kids in our community.
He also came out to our projects and checked out our afterschool program.
I read his books and think he is wonderful.

"There Are No Children Here" was written by Alex Kotlowitz. It's about two boys growing up in a Chicago housing project. IIRC, it was made into a movie where Oprah played their mother.

Jonathan Kozol's books include "Savage Inequalities", "Amazing Grace", "Ordinary Resurrections", and "Death At An Early Age." And yes, he travels around the country visiting schools. He tends to focus on the very rich vs. the very poor and not so much the schools in the middle like the ones my nieces have attended (the kind with 30 kids in a class instead of 15 like the rich schools or 45 like the poor ones). He might have checked out the afterschool program because "Ordinary Resurrections" is about an afterschool program in the South Bronx. It's my favorite of all his books.

VotedHillary · Platinum

Kbentleyis wrote:

The poster makes its point. His children are not pictured and it asks a legitimate question.

This is irony and BHO deserves every bit of it. Why are his children so off limits? Because HE said so? Everyone else's are fair game.

And this is the winner for best post in this thread. Short, truthful and right to the point.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Jen the Michigander wrote:

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

Jen the Michigander wrote:

That "art" is sickening. It reminds me of a similar "art exhibit" I heard about back in 1997-ish, where some "artist" made a collage of photos of JonBenet Ramsey in her pageant dresses and titled it "Daddy's Little Whore."

As for the ad, it doesn't name the Obama children or include a photo of them or refer to them in a derogatory manner, so I don't have a problem with it. Besides, it addresses an important political issue-- the government is feeding American children unhealthy food and the children of the poor are (as always) the most vulnerable. Y'all don't want to get me started on educational equality issues, but let it suffice to say that I've read all of Jonathan Kozol's books and I even went to see him in person.

Isn't Jonathan Kozol the man who wrote "No Children Here" He is the man that visits the innercity and writes about their school. He came here once not so much to write about our public school because its poor because the kids here go to one of the wealthiest schools in the State but because of the failure rate and drop out rates of the kids in our community.
He also came out to our projects and checked out our afterschool program.
I read his books and think he is wonderful.

"There Are No Children Here" was written by Alex Kotlowitz. It's about two boys growing up in a Chicago housing project. IIRC, it was made into a movie where Oprah played their mother.

Jonathan Kozol's books include "Savage Inequalities", "Amazing Grace", "Ordinary Resurrections", and "Death At An Early Age." And yes, he travels around the country visiting schools. He tends to focus on the very rich vs. the very poor and not so much the schools in the middle like the ones my nieces have attended (the kind with 30 kids in a class instead of 15 like the rich schools or 45 like the poor ones). He might have checked out the afterschool program because "Ordinary Resurrections" is about an afterschool program in the South Bronx. It's my favorite of all his books.

I read those two books. I had the right man but the wrong book. He came here about four years ago or maybe five. He was good with the children and came back several times for about six months or so. He interviewed my daughter and myself.