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TOPIC: Dissenting Justice: Would President Hillary Clinton Have Run Away from Health Care Reform?


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Dissenting Justice: Would President Hillary Clinton Have Run Away from Health Care Reform?
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http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/08/would-president-hillary-clinton-have.html


Would President Hillary Clinton have run away from healthcare reform like President Obama is reportedly going to do?

What provokes this question? Well, for starters, the White House has been a lot less than passionate about healthcare reform. The blatantly wrong and deceitful Sarah Palin has a louder voice on the issue than President Obama.

Also, Obama campaigned on "unity," while Clinton campaigned as a "fighter." I always thought true reform required a fighter. That is certainly how it has occurred historically. But people without knowledge of history do not understand or appreciate this reality. Change does not come from chanting, and an election is not a social movement.

During the presidential campaign, many of Obama's most ardent supporters were young Web users, who enthusiastically spread his positions across the Internet and smacked down those who stood in their way. Where are they now? Hint: Summer break. Another question: Where are all of those "guy" Senators who endorsed Obama and called for Clinton to end her "divisive" campaign?

Today, the wires are reporting that Obama is prepared to drop a public plan option -- with hardly any public debate on the issue. Yet, Obama was supposed to bring us the "better-than-Clinton healthcare reform process. Say what you like about Clinton (and most people have strong opinions either way), but no one can honestly assert that she lacks passion on healthcare reform and a true drive regarding the subject.

Obama is apparently retreating because a "Gang of Six" members of the Senate Finance Committee decided to vote against it, and one of them, Sen. Kent Conrad -- a North Dakota Democrat -- has said that the Democrats lack the votes to get over a likely Republican filibuster. Conrad's "no" vote virtually guarantees this result.


Obama has apparently ceded what he described as one of his primary policy goals to six conservatives (3 Democrats and 3 Republicans) without public debate and without much advocacy from the White House. Where I am sitting, unity looks like capitulation -- or a clever way of letting six men on one Senate committee take responsibility for killing a measure that Obama really did not want in the first place. Neither option looks that good.

 

Read more at the link

I am not crazy about the Palin bashing but after looking at the blog he does tend to bash everyone except for maybe Hillary.


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Good article, HMG16. I just tweeted it. I've been tweeting everything lately.

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Yes good article we need to spread this around send it to contactc, as long as the Palin bashing is about policy not sexism or lies etc that is fine.

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Jen the Michigander wrote:

Good article, HMG16. I just tweeted it. I've been tweeting everything lately.




 I need to go back to tweeting I have been so busy doing other things.



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The lady had a solid well-written plan. She has had that plan for the last 15 years. Hillary knew how to make the plan work and come out a winner.

No one can doubt the intelligence and drive of our lady of DC. I would have jumped on this health care plan in a heart beat. She would have never let the loons in congress conjure up a foolish plan all by themselves--Hillary would have taken charge.

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Hillary would have been capable of answering people's questions on her plan in great detail. Calmly so that everyone could understand what it meant, how it would work, and would not have given empty promises as to what her plan could do.

When she said she'd been refining her plan for fifteen years she wasn't kidding. She was tough enough to go against all the lies that had been thrown at her before and detailed enough to convince all but the most ardent nay sayers.

This never would have got so out of control if she were POTUS because people would not feel left without good answers. I think that's why most of the Americans who were truly ardent about health care for all were supporting HER over Obama all along. They knew she knew what she was doing and did not feel so threatened and left out in the cold by her plan.

His plan was all along a copy of hers while leaving GIANT holes for the insurance companies and HMO"s to still turn people away...then he went after her with Republican scare tactics...you know the kind HE is having to deal with now..and cannot handle! It's not even as bad as it was for her in 1993 and he is caving.

People lost a real opportunity for workable health care reform when they got behind Obama instead of Hillary ...it was the stupidest thing I ever saw the left do in my life. They SAY they wanted HR676 or similar and they so had it right there in their hands and they did nothing but, stomp all over it and now they are whining that their President God isn't going to be able to deliver.

We will all have to pay for that "mistake" of judgment now.

Health care was always Hillary's passion. She has dedicated her life to creating a plan that works for America..she's studied it for years, she knew what would work and what would not. How blind did people have to be to not see that?? I will never understand the sheer hubris and ignorance of not understanding that when someone has worked on something that long it usually means it's a better plan than the one that someone stole part of and threw the rest together in less than a year from the likes of the failed Massachutsetts plan, and Romneycare.

They are now going to get what they deserve and unfortunately the rest of us will be left out in the cold. Yet they have the NERVE to say they care about health care reform now?? I call b.s. on them all.

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I believe she would have worked with Republicans also she proved that during her time in the congress.  I believe they would have  been more willing to work with her because she would have worked with them.

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She never would have allowed all this confusion to go on, never mind even start. She would want it clear and concise. Definates not it is our bill, no it is the congresses bill. "Bill, what bill? We don't have a bill yet?!?!?! That was an idea we wanted in place before the Senate recess." Whack jobs. They have no clue. Hillary would have known since jump street, that confusion automatically causes chaos! She never would have let that seed into the ground!

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