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TOPIC: Meeting of the Diplomats: Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissinger talk...(Newsweek 12/21/09)

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The full title is "Meeting of the Diplomats: Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissinger talk about presidents, priorities –and the difficulty of winding down wars." This is a long article. I will just post a few highlights. http://www.newsweek.com/id/227739 Meacham: What has surprised you most since becoming secretary of state? Clinton: Well, probably the intensity of the work. It’s just a 24/7 job. It sounds almost banal to say, [but] it’s a really big world out there, and the United States has responsibilities practically everywhere. And the nature of the challenges we’re facing are not only bilateral and multilateral, but they are transnational. One of the biggest challenges for me personally is to keep trying to present an affirmative agenda, not a reactive one, because you could end up being kind of an inbox secretary of state. You are never off duty. Because you land, you begin to work, and you go the next place and you land and begin to work. When you come back, your inbox is a foot high. Kissinger : That is very comparable to my experience. I had been national-security adviser before I became secretary of state. So I saw the issues that reach the White House and the issues that reach the secretary. The issues that reach the White House are most frequently strategic, while as secretary of state, as Hillary has pointed out, there are as many constituencies as there are countries with which we have relationships. So at the end of every day you almost have to make a decision—whom are you going to insult by not dealing with his or her problems? [Clinton laughs.] Because there’s no possible way you could get through. It’s a job that requires 24-hour attention. One of the problems of government is to separate the urgent from the important and make sure you’re dealing with the important and don’t let the urgent drive out the important. Another challenge one has as secretary is that I think it’s the best staff in town, but it’s also the most individualistic staff … Clinton: Mm-hmm. Kissinger: … in town. With so many constituencies, to get them to work toward a coherent goal is a huge assignment for the secretary. Clinton: It is. How important is the relationship between the secretary and the president? Clinton: Oh, I think it’s critically important. First of all, it’s critical to the formulation of policy and the giving of advice and having the perspective of diplomacy and development at the table when decisions of moment are made. Speaking for myself and I think other secretaries with whom I’ve spoken, including Henry, it is such a key relationship that you really have to invest time and effort in it. I work closely with not only [national-security adviser] Jim Jones but also [Defense Secretary] Bob Gates. But at the end of the day, it’s that sort of funnel; the tough decisions end up in the Oval Office. And you can’t just walk in and say to the president, “Here’s what I think you should do.” It takes a lot of thought and effort. I meet with the president one-on-one once a week. I’m in other meetings with him with the national-security team. It’s a constant conversation. Kissinger: I fundamentally agree—the relationship of the president and the secretary is absolutely key. The State Department has a tendency to insist on its prerogative that it is exclusively entitled to conduct foreign policy. My view is that when you assert your prerogatives you’ve already lost the bureaucratic battle. I saw the president every day when we were both in town because I felt it was absolutely essential that we thought along the same lines. I was lucky. I had extraordinarily close relationships with the two presidents I served. In fact, if one looks at the history of the secretaries of state, it’s rare. If they don’t have a close relationship, they don’t last. Clinton: What I have found hardest to balance is the amount of travel that is expected today. One would think that in an era where communication is instantaneous, you would not have to get on an airplane and go sit in a meeting. But, in fact, it’s almost as though people are more desirous of seeing someone in person. Kissinger: Because they have to have explained to them what is really being thought, which you can’t put through cables. Clinton: You can’t. And because press coverage, with all due respect, often raises fears and anxieties that are not rooted in any decision process. People sit around in capitals all over the world reading tea leaves, trying to make sense of what we’re doing. We have to go and meet and talk and listen, and it is a challenge to manage all of the relationships you have to manage when you’re on an airplane as much as I am these days. But that’s why having the trust and confidence of the president means that you can do the travel, check back in, report back in without worrying that you’re not on the same page because you’ve talked at length about where you’re headed before you go. Clinton: I want people to know we may be sending more troops [to Afghanistan], but we’re also intensifying our diplomatic and political efforts and doing what we can alongside the people of Afghanistan to deliver results in terms of better services for them, all of which are part of our strategic view of how you reverse the momentum of the Taliban. So it’s all connected. It’s not either/or any longer. Kissinger: Whenever one creates a diplomatic forum, one has to understand that there has to be a combination of rewards and penalties and that the other side will make its conclusions on the basis of benefits and risks. One has to be able to construct that, and one should never put a poor negotiator in the room and say, now you will start making compromises. Create the impression of endless willingness to compromise and you almost invite deadlines. That’s the challenge we now have in North Korea and have had in North Korea for 10 years. In this sense, diplomacy and foreign policy and other elements of political activity have to be closely linked and have to be understood by the negotiators. That’s why Hillary has the most exciting job in the government. Clinton: But it’s also more like a conductor than a soloist. __________________ Nobody puts THIS baby in the corner!

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Great article. Thank you Jen. I savored it during my lunch hour. :) __________________ *Democracy needs defending* - SOS Hillary Clinton, Sept 8, 2010 Democracy is more than just elections - SOS Hillary Clinton, Oct 28, 2010 Madam Secretary Blog at ForeignPolicy.com Project Vote Smart - Stay informed and engaged!

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I loved this article __________________

Jen the Michigander

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Henry Kissinger is proof that you can be a great Secretary of State even if the President in whose administration you serve is not so great. Dr. Kissinger emerged from the Nixon scandals untouched and Hillary will do likewise when Obama's House of Cards comes a-tumbling down. __________________ Nobody puts THIS baby in the corner!

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