Q: You have delivered some of the toughest messages to come out of this administration. Are you President Obama's bad cop these days? A: I don't think there's anything as formal as that … It's not "You're with us or against us." It is "We have a lot of business to do. But just because we're going to work with you to achieve progress on issues A, B, and C doesn't mean we're forestalled from raising questions about what you're doing on X, Y, and Z." We do a lot of business with China, for example.
Q: Are you encouraging Google in its current standoff with China? A: That was always a business decision on the part of Google. But we are encouraging the Chinese to recognize the importance of this form of free expression.
Q: We know how hard you're working now to get a U.N. resolution on Iran sanctions. But last year you proposed what you called a defense umbrella for the region, and we've gotten indications that Secretary Gates is interested in the idea of containment should sanctions fail. Is it fair to say that you two are pushing for that? A: We are committed to doing everything we can to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear-weapons state. Sanctions are a tool, which we are pursuing with our partners in the United Nations. And it is an important effort because it will put the international community on record, [and] it carries benefits in terms of influencing the decision making within Iran. The other important [aim is to change] the Iranian calculation that they will be stronger and safer if they pursue nuclear weapons. We want them to understand they will be neither. And that's not a policy of containment. It is a policy of deterrence.
Q: The book Game Change had you saying to President-elect Obama that you were concerned about the role of your husband if you became secretary of state. Is that accurate? What is his role? A: First of all, I haven't read the book, so I can't comment on anything in it. [Bill] is very actively engaged in his own work on behalf of his own foundation and now on behalf of the United Nations in Haiti. He gets calls from a lot of people in the administration on a pretty regular basis and offers [advice] with the full awareness that he's on the outside and doesn't have all the information that those of us on the inside might have. And he's a great sounding board for me. Because he knows 90 percent of the people that I deal with in the world today and has astute observations about what moves them and what doesn't and how it's all interconnected.