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"Ed Miliband is No Abraham Lincoln but David Miliband is a Little Like Hillary Clinton" (Spectator UK, 9/15/10)
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Read @ Spectator UK

Ed Miliband is No Abraham Lincoln but David Miliband is a Little Like Hillary Clinton

Are Labour really going to make Ed Miliband their next leader? Tea leaves and whatever passes for momentum in this race suggest that this is quite possible. If the younger Miliband - the one who, allegedly, can speak "normal" - does prevail then what hesitant conclusions may be drawn?

1. David Miliband's support at Westminster may have hurt his chances in the other constituencies. Miliband Major ran - in as much as this strolling leadership contest ever amounted to a race - on experience, authority and the sense that he was the inevitable victor. But as Hillary Clinton can tell you, experience, authority and inevitability don't count for as much as they once did. (Emphasis added)

2. Just as Hillary was wounded by her support for the Iraq War (without which Barack Obama might not have won) so David Miliband is hampered by the perception that he was the party establishment's favourite. Voters who think Labour needs to change are less likely to endorse the candidate favoured by the party bigwigs.

3. The irony, of course, is that David Miliband really is the candidate who seems to have given most thought to how Labour can change to win back lost support. (Here analogies with the Democrats cease to be of any use.) But he has been hampered by his association, wanted or fair or not, with the Blairite wing of the party. That's not the kind of change the party is interested in.

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Interesting analysis there.

I dont quite agree with her Iraq war vote as THE differentiator that caused the nomination of Obama. The article is off in that analysis. Hillary Clinton DID win major of votes in the Democratic National Party Primaries.  She even had more electoral college votes if you looked at the electoral colleges count for each of the states in which she won.

Hillary did not get the nomination from the party leadership.  It had nothing to do with Iraq war vote.  Definitely was not told to the country as a reason.  It had everything to do with FL and MI votes being tossed out and not being counted by this DEMOCRAZY!!

 

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-- Edited by Sanders on Wednesday 15th of September 2010 10:38:03 PM

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Yep, it was the spin and hype about the Iraq vote that was the problem. MSM made the most of it. Obama, who was not even in the senate when the first vote was taken, made it sound as if he voted against the resolution. Sadly, I think many of his supporters, especially the young Obamababies, actually thought he was a senator at the time, one who stood against the war.



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The media itself was for the Iraq War at first. They put zero pressure on Bush and they did nothing to educate the ignorant populace about how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I was upset with Hillary at the time for voting in favor of the use of force, but at the same time I could see that as the Senator from NY, she couldn't really vote against it. If anything, she was guilty of believing George Dubya would wait and let the inspectors do their job.

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Jen the Michigander wrote:

The media itself was for the Iraq War at first. They put zero pressure on Bush and they did nothing to educate the ignorant populace about how Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I was upset with Hillary at the time for voting in favor of the use of force, but at the same time I could see that as the Senator from NY, she couldn't really vote against it. If anything, she was guilty of believing George Dubya would wait and let the inspectors do their job.


Between MSM doing NO investigative or objective reporting; the, at best, inaccurate/at worst, falsified intelligence reports about WMD; and the WH stated plan to wait for the inspectors, this was a pretty foggy issue at the time.

However, as you noted, Jen, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, the tragedy provided a convenient excuse during a time when there was a highly charged emotional climate in this country. 


 



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