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President Obama Heralds as 'Significant Progress' Unpopular Compromise Health Care Bill, Non-Binding Climate Change Accord

December 19, 2009 4:40 PM


President Obama came to the Diplomatic Reception Room Saturday afternoon to herald the unpopular compromise Senate health care reform bill and the watered-down non-binding international climate change accord as "significant progress" on resolving "the crushing cost of health care and our dangerous dependence on fossil fuels."

Responding to a deal hashed-out between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb. -- the last hold-out among all 60 senators who caucus with Democrats -- the president said "it now appears that the American people will have the vote they deserve on genuine reform that offers security to those who have health insurance and affordable options to those for do not."

You can read the text of the compromise HERE.

According to the Congressional Budget Office analysis, the legislation "would establish a mandate for most legal residents of the United States to obtain health insurance; set up insurance exchanges through which certain individuals and families could receive federal subsidies to substantially reduce the cost of purchasing that coverage; significantly expand eligibility for Medicaid; substantially reduce the growth of Medicare’s payment rates for most services...impose an excise tax on insurance plans with relatively high premiums; and make various other changes to the federal tax code, Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs."

The bill would "yield a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion" over the next decade, would raise taxes by $518.5 billion, and by 2019 would reduce by approximately 31 million the number of non-elderly Americans who are uninsured -- "leaving about 23 million nonelderly residents uninsured (about one-third of whom would be unauthorized immigrants)."

President Obama called the bill "a major step forward for the American people.  After a nearly century long struggle we are on the cusp of making health care reform a reality in the United States of America."

 

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Given the significance of these, I hope we can discuss and contact our reps with well digested input. Thanks.

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Yeah and the president thinks taxing "caddilac" healthcare plans has some merit, so that means us union folks who gave up their raises to either keep their healthcare plan or get a better one, be prepared to be taxed.  As a single unmarried woman I think I bear enough of the tax burden.

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I doubt this bill will help anyone but the Republicans in 2010.  Its unpopular women got thrown under the bus, I don't believe its going to help a lot of working poor. Its an out and out bad bill

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Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

I doubt this bill will help anyone but the Republicans in 2010.  Its unpopular women got thrown under the bus, I don't believe its going to help a lot of working poor. Its an out and out bad bill



This is what concerns me.  It is exactly what it is supposed to help with.. but obviously you disagree.

It appears that the subsidies in the plan are not sufficient to entice working poor to get that insurance.  And, that is understandable, because the pinch of 17% of income is much bigger at lower income.  This is because other expenses (food, shelter) take bigger share of their income than at higher income levels.  So disposable income is far less and there is very little wiggle room for lower income people in their expense pattern.  I hope this can be called in by many people to their representatives.



-- Edited by Sanders on Saturday 26th of December 2009 10:20:34 PM

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I plan to speak to my Represenative and my Senators

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I will call on Monday with the following.

At the LOWEST strata of income, the proposed Bill (Senate version for example) gives coverage to someone presently uninsured at 17% of their income.  This is a proposal to take expense from 0% of income to 17% of income (and the next level is 22% of income or so). 
- How much of this will be covered by subsidies? 
- Will it actually end up being less expensive for them to pay fine? If so, your plan does not achieve its goal.  More punitive approach is not what I suggest.

At lower income levels, there is no wiggle room on expense pattern, as their proportion of cost of food and housing is significantly larger than at higher income levels.

Please explore ways to make it far more affordable and reachable at significantly lower income levels.


Secondly, lack of coverage for abortion is a big mistake.  In fact, it will result in wrong outcomes and greater burden on poorer people who would now have to weigh the cost of getting an abortion as part of their decision.  It is unconscionable that we will put that added burden on people.


To be considered a true victory, the bill needs to lower the cost of insurance by promoting competition.  Open the cross border restrictions. This is bound to increase options and promote insurance companies to compete the same way auto insurance companies do at present; afterall, you have given us that comparison before, why not adopt similar model?

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-- Edited by Sanders on Saturday 26th of December 2009 10:34:18 PM

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