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December 22, 2009

Harry Reid slips in a bombshell for Obamacare foes

Rick Moran
What did we ever do to deserve Harry Reid?

When the "manager's amendment" was passed in the dead of night, I pointed out that the wonks had yet to give it a good going over to discern what other surprises might lurk in the convoluted language used to obscure so much in the bill.

I'm sure you'll be happy to know that the wonks have not disappointed us.

Buried in the amendment is a bombshell; there will be no way to amend parts of Obamacare. Apparently, Reid wants to make this bill something like a royal decree where no one can change what has already been wrought.

The Weekly Standard blog has the story:

Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) pointed out some rather astounding language in the Senate health care bill during floor remarks tonight. First, he noted that there are a number of changes to Senate rules in the bill--and it's supposed to take a 2/3 vote to change the rules. And then he pointed out that the Reid bill declares on page 1020 that the Independent Medicare Advisory Board cannot be repealed by future Congresses:

there's one provision that i found particularly troubling and it's under section c, titled "limitations on changes to this subsection."

and i quote -- "it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."

this is not legislation. it's not law. this is a rule change. it's a pretty big deal. we will be passing a new law and at the same time creating a senate rule that makes it out of order to amend or even repeal the law.

i'm not even sure that it's constitutional, but if it is, it most certainly is a senate rule. i don't see why the majority party wouldn't put this in every bill. if you like your law, you most certainly would want it to have force for future senates.

i mean, we want to bind future congresses. this goes to the fundamental purpose of senate rules: to prevent a tyrannical majority from trampling the rights of the minority or of future co congresses.


Get that? No repeal, no amendments, no nothing. That part of Obamacare is as set in stone as the idea that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. It is unalterable - which, of course, means the entire bill is off limits.

The goal is to guard against the possibility that the GOP may win back the House and Senate some day and may wish to repeal or drastically alter Obamacare. In the dead of night, Harry Reid has turned the United States from a constitutional republic into a banana republic monarchy.

Hat Tip: Ed Lasky

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That's quite something! confuse

I do not understand the convergence process of the two legislative bodies anymore!  How can they bury a senate procedural amendment into a larger bill?  Can it stand? I doubt it.

Well, how are they going to reconcile that with the House bill then?  This is so confusing.  It sure has become a banana republic!

-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 22nd of December 2009 02:10:21 PM

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-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 22nd of December 2009 03:26:00 PM

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Oh yeah, the jerk is trying to rig the rules so that ANY amendment or change to the bill would require a 2/3 majority vote - that way, he can insulate his trash bill from being changed when they lose control of Congress. I think he knows he will lose next November.

These are really old bolshevik tactics, changing the rules as needed. They still haven't even read the bill, O puppets that they are.


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What a crock hopefully it won't stand up to a Supreme Court challange

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And of course they do it when they think no one has time to pay attention - Christmas!disbelief

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nah, Alex, people are paying attention, just look at us, heck most of us are ex-dems, are we are paying attention.

yea, Bush was NEVER this bad.

F all these marxist dictators!

and these people ARE dictators!

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