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Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Hillary Clinton: better late than never... really! (FreeMeNow 1/09/10)

Alex · Diamond

Fifteen minutes later and within a minute after Obama had concluded his press conference of what, I am confident, was yet another “Daily Yawn”… “You people are screwed”… “I don’t know what I’m doing and the Media is completely behind me on that”,

sO FUNNY! He's such a #@%$^head. evileye

Sanders · Diamond

Thank you for the link. Yesterday turned out to be work-busy on top of everything else in the e-world. So, hope to look at it today. Thank you.

Yes, those well timed overlaps have to be beaten! If it was accidental, it may happen one time, but it has happened time and again.

-- Edited by Sanders on Saturday 9th of January 2010 11:09:59 AM

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

He's a media hog except for when they are hammering him.

VotedHillary · Platinum

As an older lesbian, I was furious with BJK for so long after she cozied up to her husband when she was outed. But time, and the realization of the time period when it occurred, has tempered my youthful anger with a modicum of understanding.

So many in lesbian circles praise Martina's "coming out" while bashing BJK. But they seem to fail to connect the dots...Martina came out once she was FINANCIALLY set for life. And that mind-set, the loss of income, was why BJK didn't.

I am grateful BJK is still trying to further women's causes.

freespirit · Moderator

VotedHillary wrote:

As an older lesbian, I was furious with BJK for so long after she cozied up to her husband when she was outed. But time, and the realization of the time period when it occurred, has tempered my youthful anger with a modicum of understanding.

So many in lesbian circles praise Martina's "coming out" while bashing BJK. But they seem to fail to connect the dots...Martina came out once she was FINANCIALLY set for life. And that mind-set, the loss of income, was why BJK didn't.

I am grateful BJK is still trying to further women's causes.

OK, now, I'm confused. VH, are you referring to Betty Jean King of The Majority United, or Billie Jean King, the tennis player?

Regardless, I am glad you feel less impacted by the initial unwillingness of BJK to claim her true sexual identity. I don't know from a personal perspective all of the dynamics and feelings that are part of the "coming out" experience., but based on research assigned to me in grad school regarding the stressors GLBTs face, my understanding is that the decision to "come out" evokes an enormous amount of fear, conflict and stress for the individual struggling with this decision.

I'm sure it's also very difficult for those who have already embraced and revealed their sexual orientation to wait for others who have not yet done so.

Sanders · Diamond

She is talking about Betty Jean Kling.. Article was posted in Betty's website.

I was unaware of BJK being a lesbian. It really does not make any difference to me. I just hope she has recovered from her enormous loss last year.

VH, While it is difficult to understand the specifics, having heard it many times from many gays in particular, that frustration is very understandable. It is a strife to be accepted for who you are and not have to hide it. Yes, that is understandable. And, yes, financial security may have played a role in Martina's case and also in BJK's - often people do not see people in the totality of their circumstances.

-- Edited by Sanders on Monday 18th of January 2010 02:06:17 AM

freespirit · Moderator

Sanders wrote:

She is talking about Betty Jean Kling.. Article was posted in Betty's website.

I was unaware of BJK being a lesbian. It really does not make any difference to me. I just hope she has recovered from her enormous loss last year.

Right. I know that's where Jen got the article, but with the reference to Martina, I thought possibly, VH was thinking about another tennis player, also with the initials BJK.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

freespirit wrote:

Sanders wrote:

She is talking about Betty Jean Kling.. Article was posted in Betty's website.

I was unaware of BJK being a lesbian. It really does not make any difference to me. I just hope she has recovered from her enormous loss last year.

Right. I know that's where Jen got the article, but with the reference to Martina, I thought possibly, VH was thinking about another tennis player, also with the initials BJK.

I think she may be talking about the Tennis player. I don't think Billie Jean Kling is a lesbian