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Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Memo to media: Statement attributed to Clinton in Game Change is not a direct quote (Media Matters 1/11/10)

pcfs · Moderator

Thanks for posting Jen. I also heard Bob Woodward of the Washington Post say the same. (quote) Who is the source in Hillary's camp that said that she was not fit to be President. What a shame that these two so called authors have to trash people when the Clintons are working so hard for the concerns of our country. Like the two wars we are in, the job situation,healthcare and Americas debts. The Clintons have devoted their whole adult life trying to make it better. Their service to our country is something to be admired, not trashed. Madame Secretary is on travel now. God Speed and safe travel and my prayers are for her safe return.

Sanders · Diamond

Hi pcfs, Delighted to see you! Jen, Thanks for posting this. Impressed that Media Matters has stood up on this - about time!

Yes, absolutely trash work - UNSOURCED - and these trash-authors are going on all kinds of talk shows and yapping about their 'conclusions.'

It is sad that all people get the benefit of the doubts. But when it comes to Clintons, any allegation is taken simply as fact. It is totally unfair.

Yes, Hillary is on travel doing the work of the nation. She is at her highest rating. They had to pick this time to throw her in the ditch.

Rise, Hillary Rise!

-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 12th of January 2010 10:23:35 AM

freespirit · Moderator

Well this book is the literary equivalent of the "National Inquirer" paper. Of course, Kennedy is not around to refute the statement attributed to him - not that he probably would if he were, since the intent is to smear the Clintons.

This is about the Obama folks trying to limit the power and popularity of the Clintons. From what I've seen and heard, Obama comes off looking pretty innocent. All the dirty work done to get him to run for POTUS is attributed to others. So what if a few players like Reid had to be sacrificed. No doubt it was worth it to take another hit at the Clintons.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Kennedy lied on Clinton nor do I believe Clinton said anything like this. This book doesn't surprise me.

VotedHillary · Platinum

Edward R. Murrow is just rolling in his grave over what has become of our so-called "Fourth Estate".

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

It's good to see you here, Pcfs and VotedHillary!

According to various blog articles and comments I have read, the source for all the Hillary stuff in this book is most likely that turncoat/mole Patti Solis Doyle. Aside from her Obama connections, I wouldn't consider her a reliable source because she was gone pretty early on in the campaign. So basically, she's biased as far as whatever she did see or experience, plus there's a lot that she missed because she wasn't there. For example, she wouldn't have been around during the later primaries when Hillary's campaign was on a roll.

Sanders · Diamond

VotedHillary wrote:

Edward R. Murrow is just rolling in his grave over what has become of our so-called "Fourth Estate".

Stamp!!

VotedHillary, I have missed you! Yes, I totally agree.

Hillary supporters have woken up with this book.

Meanwhile, the demise of the Fourth Estate would spell disaster for democracy. So, it is for us the people to take charge and overcome the biases and counter-act the unilateral declarations of the biased MSM.

-- Edited by Sanders on Wednesday 13th of January 2010 01:00:11 AM

rachel · Platinum

All this is a bunch of crap. We all know every election year there is a hit put out on the Clintons to either try and derail them or people they support. A few years ago Barack obama had a failed bid to get into congress he would have been lucky to fetch anyone coffee besides I thought getting coffee and other refereshments were part of the job description of a community organizer.

Sanders · Diamond

rachel, you nailed it. In the CONTEXT OF EXPERIENCE, 'lucky to fetch coffee' is an expression of inexperience. Often used to indicate people wo are likely to bid for internships. [Yesterday Heraldo said on Hannity that he does not know the context; so could not categorize that statement]. Now all that assuming that the statement is indeed a quote from the man in the grave...

Yes a hit job by whoever for whatever goals.. not the least of which is money.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

rachel wrote:

All this is a bunch of crap. We all know every election year there is a hit put out on the Clintons to either try and derail them or people they support. A few years ago Barack obama had a failed bid to get into congress he would have been lucky to fetch anyone coffee besides I thought getting coffee and other refereshments were part of the job description of a community organizer.

I am confused about where the alleged racism comes in from
Yet no one gets pissed when Reid implyed that all black people speak with a negro dialect. I am not going to get angry about the first part because sadly that is more then likely true. Obama is President because he is light skinned. Sad but true.

rachel · Platinum

I am offended by the Negro Dialect remark, why no remarks about Edwards beign able to control is sourthern dialect?

rachel · Platinum

of course I mean Southern.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Selective outrage.

Reid can utter offensive statements because he is Obama's pal and helped him get elected. Besides, there's so much at stake with this health care bill that Reid and Obama must keep a united front so they can pass that rotten bill.

But if someone Obama dislikes says anything-- or is even alleged to have said something-- that can be twisted and distorted to the point where some people see it as racist, then that person does not get a free pass. Bill Clinton's coffee remark falls into this category.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Jen the Michigander wrote:

Selective outrage.

Reid can utter offensive statements because he is Obama's pal and helped him get elected. Besides, there's so much at stake with this health care bill that Reid and Obama must keep a united front so they can pass that rotten bill.

But if someone Obama dislikes says anything-- or is even alleged to have said something-- that can be twisted and distorted to the point where some people see it as racist, then that person does not get a free pass. Bill Clinton's coffee remark falls into this category.

Its not Obama who is ticking me off I am ticked at the African American groups like NAACP for not saying a damn thing about this. They act just like NOW they only speak out against Republicans. Useless that's why I am done with them too. I left NOW and now I left the NAACP I am not surprised though just ticked off.