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I strongly agree with Martha Coakley on this.  There was not one thing she said incorrect.. nor even phrased wrong in this case.

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Another Coakley gaffe: Practicing Catholics shouldn't work in emergency rooms

By: David Freddoso
Online Opinion Editor
01/15/10 8:33 AM PST

Gaffes come so fast and furious from Democratic Senate candidate Martha Coakley that it's hard even to keep up.

Over at Big Government, Jim Hoft picked up yesterday on an interview that Coakley gave WBSM radio. The interview touched on health care and rules protecting freedom of conscience for health care providers who do not want to take part in abortions or in dispensing post-coital contraceptives believed to act as abortifacients. Scott Brown, Coakley's Republican opponent in Tuesday's special Senate election, has supported such conscience rules in the Massachusetts legislature.

Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don’t want to do that.

Martha Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.

Ken Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.

Martha Coakley: (……uh, eh…um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.


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Read more at the San Francisco Examiner

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Honestly, I agree with Martha Coakley on this.

The law is what it is. In the Emergency Room's patient's rights trump the rights of the worker.   And if the worker has such religious restrictions on what they can and cannot do (in their workplace), they should probably not choose that line of work.



-- Edited by Sanders on Friday 15th of January 2010 09:06:54 PM

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Then why are the amish being exempt from healthcare mandate?

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Building 4112 wrote:

Then why are the amish being exempt from healthcare mandate?

They should not be.

But, if they are, the exemption should be available for everyone.  Then, what's the point of a mandate??

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-- Edited by Sanders on Friday 15th of January 2010 11:37:13 PM

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Building 4112 wrote:

Then why are the amish being exempt from healthcare mandate?


Good point.  I also agree with Coakley's statement.  If you can't or won't do the job you've been hired to do, then you shouldn't have the job.  Most medical facilities receive federal dollars - in the form of Medicare and Medicaid payments.  For an employee of such a facility to refuse to treat a patient on religious grounds is beyond absurd.

BTW - anyone know how the Catholics feel about Viagra?  Logic would dictate that if you are morally opposed to birth control, you ought to be morally opposed to medications that enable males to impregnate females.   Not to be crude, but judging from the number of commercials for medications to correct ED, there must be a whole lot of guys out there who, without Viagra, or some similar medication, would not be capable of participating in the kind of activity that makes birth control a necessity.   Yet, you never hear of a pharmacist who is opposed to selling viagra, or a doctor who refuses to prescribe it.  Imagine the public outcry if a whole lot of limp males were denied the starch.

 



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freespirit, You hit on my favorite subject. The incredible double standard. And the constant push of sex on TV.

Yes, I wonder why the Catholics are so quiet about the male harmones. Even more importantly, why are they quiet about the male harmones being peddled on the TV during family viewing hours?


Is their interest really in catering to the commercial interests via increasing population and therefore demand? I have to pose that giving this set of facts.

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This is a such a tough one for me. Martha is a friend to us in that she was very loyal when it mattered. And I try and make it a policy of mine to not betray my friends.

OTOH, Scott Brown's candidacy represents a unique opportunity, to quote De Tocqueville, to end the tyranny of the majority and maybe restore some common sense to Washington.

At this point, for me personally, either one is a victory (for different reasons).....but between the two, I will have to punt on this one.

We will see what happens on Tuesday.

-- Edited by Eminence on Saturday 16th of January 2010 12:05:32 AM

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Eminence wrote:

This is a such a tough one for me. Martha is a friend to us in that she was very loyal when it mattered. And I try and make it a policy of mine to not betray my friends.

OTOH, Scott Brown's candidacy represents a unique opportunity, to quote De Tocqueville, to end the tyranny of the majority and maybe restore some common sense to Washington.

At this point, for me personally, either one is a victory (for different reasons).....but between the two, I will have to punt on this one.

We will see what happens on Tuesday.

-- Edited by Eminence on Saturday 16th of January 2010 12:05:32 AM


This perfectly articulates my own internal conflict about this race, eminence, and I think the conflict many of us are experiencing.  I'm honestly glad I don't have to vote on this one.  The idea of the Dems losing filibuster power is very appealing, especially given the rush job they've done with this so-called health care reform bill.  Plus, I would like to see the Dems who screwed over Hillary and us get some well deserved payback. 

On the other hand, I hate to see a woman and a Hill supporter lose - for obvious reasons.  In addition, the Republicans don't deserve our votes either.  Neither the Pubs or the Dems have done much to actually improve life and safety in this country.  Nor has either party done much for women's rights, period.

 



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