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TOPIC: Clinton says local authorities to deal with Americans charged in Haiti (CNN 2/05/10)


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Clinton says local authorities to deal with Americans charged in Haiti (CNN 2/05/10)
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/05/haiti.arrests/

With 10 American Baptist missionaries in Haiti now charged with kidnapping for attempting to take 33 children out of the country, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Friday the case is for Haiti to decide.

“Obviously, this is a matter for the Haitian judicial system,” Clinton told reporters at the State Department. “We’re going to continue to provide support as we do in every instance like this to American citizens who have been charged and hope that this matter can be resolved in an expeditious way, but it is something that a sovereign nation is pursuing based on the evidence that it presented when the charges were announced.”

Clinton said the U.S. Embassy in Haiti is providing consular services and the American ambassador is speaking with his counterparts in the Haitian government. “We have full access” to the Americans, she said.

The 10 missionaries were charged Thursday with kidnapping children and criminal association. Under Haitian law, anyone accused of kidnapping a child is not eligible for bail, the attorney general’s office said.

Conviction on the kidnapping charge carries a maximum penalty of life in prison; the criminal association charge carries a penalty of three to nine years, according to a former justice minister.


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This is certainly a puzzling story (the following is all in quotes):

Idaho church prays for Americans held in Haiti

- Associated Press Writer
MERIDIAN, Idaho -- A tearful Idaho congregation heard their pastor warn that church members detained in Haiti after attempting to take 33 children into the Dominican Republic could face child trafficking charges. Then the pastor urged them to pray.

"It should be very obvious, after our team was arrested, that prayer is needed more now than perhaps at any other time," Senior Pastor Clint Henry said during Sunday services at Central Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, west of Boise.

The 10 detained Americans - five of whom are members of Henry's church - were told they face a possible court hearing in Port-au-Prince on Monday. But Haiti's justice secretary, Amarick Louis, told the AP on Sunday that a commission would meet Monday to determine if the group would go before a judge.

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Clint Henry, head pastor at Central Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, Idaho takes questions from the media on Sunday, Jan. 31, 2010. Five members of the Central Valley Baptist church are currently being detained in Haiti along with five other Americans following an attempt to transport 33 children out of Haiti and into the Dominican Republic.

- Idaho Press-Tribune, Charlie Litchfield /AP Photo

Haiti Americans Detained Church

Members of the congregation at Central Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, Idaho walk to their cars following a morning service on Sunday, Jan. 31, 2010. Five members of the Central Valley Baptist congregation along with five other Americans have been detained in Haiti following an attempt to bus 33 children into the Dominican Republic.

- Charlie Litchfield /AP Photo

Haiti Americans Detained Church

Clint Henry, head pastor at Central Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, Idaho pauses for a moment while taking questions from the media on Sunday, Jan. 31, 2010. Five members of the Central Valley Baptist church are currently being detained in Haiti along with five other Americans following an attempt to transport 33 children out of Haiti and into the Dominican Republic.

- Idaho Press-Tribune, Charlie Litchfield /AP Photo

CORRECTION Haiti Earthquake Americans Detained

American citizen Laura Silsby, 40, of Boise, Idaho, speaks as Nicole Lankford, left, 18, of Middleton, Idaho and Carla Thompson, 53, of Meridian, Idaho listen during an interview with the Associated Press at police headquarters at the international airport in Port-au-Prince, Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010. Ten Americans were detained by Haitian police on Saturday as they tried to bus 33 children across the border into the Dominican Republic, allegedly without proper documents.

- Ramon Espinosa /AP Photo

Haiti Earthquake Americans Detained

American citizens Laura Silsby, 40, of Boise, Idaho, right, and Carla Thompson, 53, of Meridien, Idaho gesture as they speak with the Associated Press at the Haitian police headquarters in the international airport of Port-au-Prince, Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010. Ten Americans were detained by Haitian police on Saturday as they tried to bus 33 children across the border into the Dominican Republic, allegedly without proper documents.

- Ramon Espinosa /AP Photo

Henry told the congregation that the Americans were trying to rescue the children. But Haitian officials who stopped them at the Dominican border on Friday said the group lacked the proper documents.

The Meridian church became involved with the "Haitian Orphan Rescue Mission" because the founders of the proposed orphanage for the children, Laura Silsby and Charisa Coulter, were members of its congregation, Henry said.

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"This is something we've been talking about doing for a long time so it wasn't specific to this earthquake," he told reporters at a press conference after church services.

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The Idaho churches had elaborate plans before the earthquake to "provide a loving Christian homelike environment" for up to 200 Haitian and Dominican boys and girls in the Magante beach resort, complete with a school and chapel as well as villas and a seaside cafe catering to adoptive U.S. parents.

The mission was organized through the nonprofit New Life Children's Refuge, which Silsby incorporated in Idaho on Nov. 25. A planning document for last week's trip, posted on the East Side Baptist Church's Web site, listed an itinerary for the group and asked for donations and supplies, as well as prayers.

One prayer request sought "discernment of God's will and direction throughout this trip and for Him to prepare the way before us."

Silsby, 40, acknowledged on Sunday that she hadn't obtained the proper Haitian documents for the children, whose names were written on pink tape on their shirts during their bus ride to the border.

Public records show Silsby also owns Personal Shopper Inc., an online shopping assistance company. Incorporation papers for New Life Children's Refuge show they were sent from the company's fax machine.

Silsby's records also show she personally has some unpaid state tax bills dating to 2003 and other debt from civil judgments and state tax liens filed by the state against Personal Shopper Inc. She owes more than $1,300 to the state in back taxes; the biggest civil judgment is for $4,500 in 2009, owed to a Boise law firm.

Henry told reporters Sunday that the organization and the mission is separate from the 25-year-old church, which has been involved in at least 100 different mission trips involving construction projects and assisting in medical relief efforts both in the United States and overseas.

Some of the previous missions were to Haiti. But this was the church's first mission involving the creation of an orphanage, said Drew Ham, an assistant pastor at Central Valley Baptist Church.

Since the Americans were detained, pastors at the church said they've been getting backlash through obscenity laced phone calls and faxes, condemning the group leading the rescue mission.

"People come back and say, 'How could you be stealing children?'" said Drew Ham, an assistant pastor at Central Valley Baptist Church.

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"I am just hoping they will resolve the issue and be able to get back to the mission and come home," he said. "We know God is a big God and he can help us. What more would you ask for?"

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/252/story/996728.html



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I was hesitate to really question these people, and didn't want to jump to conclusions.
After I found out they didn't have a single piece of paper (document) that really put them in another light for viewing. Sibley in particular knew damn well you don't do that. If you go to Idaho statemen's newspaper, they have come up with her history of breaking laws, and her
financial problems that are still pending. She even has a nanny! Yes, it looks like a scam,
they'd get all these kids, and we would pay for them to live in her care, and that way she
would get her bills paid.

I think they took advantage of the parents in time of deseration, they should have tried to
help the families stay together rather than split them up. So many were not orphans.

It's sad because like Bill Clinton said, both countries need to work together to resolve this,
and like Hillary said, it's the law of Haiti and we should not interfere with their process.

Sad case!

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Good Laura needs to spend life in prison because she tried to kidnap those kids.  Hopefully the other Americans will be released she took advantage of those Missonaries,  It is a sad case.

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This also hurts legitimate adoption agencies who are doing everything by the book, not to mention the children who need homes and the families who want to adopt them. Romania shut down foreign adoptions permanently because there were too many sleazy people coming into their country and engaging in baby trafficking. The same is true in most South American countries.

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