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TOPIC: Are Power Pantsuits the Solution? (The Daily Beast 4/14/10)


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Are Power Pantsuits the Solution? (The Daily Beast 4/14/10)
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-14/are-power-pantsuits-the-solution/

I know a lot of folks won't like this one!

I know it’s considered chauvinistic to focus on what powerful women are wearing instead of what they’re saying, but we live in a visual culture, so get over it. And Hillary, for all her past shenanigans with headbands and hairdos, has finally established her style—if, as August Wilson once said, style is sticking to the same idea from beginning to end. Leave the avant-garde labels to our fearless first lady. Our secretary of state has found her uniform in an endless rack of industrial-strength pantsuits she special-orders from Oscar de la Renta. During the 2008 presidential campaign, she even jokingly referred to her followers as the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuit and told Conan O’Brien to quit making lame jokes about her pantsuits. They serve a practical purpose, not a fashionable one. She wears them to fit in, not to stand out, and that’s what bugs me. Why can’t she stand out? Why do women, when they’re sitting at the same table or in the same corner office as the big boys, always have to blend in?

When she’s on the road, Hillary often wears bright colors that set her apart in a sea of dark suits like a beacon of confidence. In early March, on a trip to Brazil, she wore a brilliant cobalt blue pantsuit, and that same week in Costa Rica she wore an emerald green jacket. Even at the State Department, when she met with the prime minister of Greece, she wore bright pink. But when she hangs out with the West Wing machers, she always seems to dress to blend in. Would she be taken less seriously if she showed up for the nuke talks in her hot pink jacket? Is the fear that wearing something noticeably feminine and remarkable would sideline her even more in the AfPak discussions?

Perhaps a hot pink jacket would be a liability on the runway of foreign relations, but I think the secretary of state has something to learn from the savvy first lady, who played to the visual nature of our culture right away and grabbed the public’s attention with her brightly colored cardigans and floral print dresses. If Nancy Pelosi can pull off a more feminine look on Capitol Hill with colorful suits and pretty pearl necklaces, why can’t the secretary of state? We are not, after all, asking for Lady Gaga-style looks here—although kudos to her for dressing up pure ambition in entertaining clothes rather than threatening ones.

Hillary and Nancy’s generation fought hard for their place at Washington’s power table, so hard that they instinctively continue to fight. To break through those glass ceilings they had to play by the men’s rules and dress like men. But with each successive generation, the dress code gets a little looser. Already powerful women like Michelle Obama have redefined the notion of what is appropriate. And thanks to Michelle, the next generation—the one who buys everything online and lives a truly transparent life, sharing their every fashion whim on sites like Polyvore.com and Twitter—will wear whatever they want in the Oval Office.

Hillary must have already gotten the memo about her unremarkable mannish suit: The next day, she wore the hot pink jacket to meet with South Korean President Lee Myung-bak for a wreath-laying ceremony at the Korean War Memorial—proving she can take bigger style strides, too.


I think it's ridiculous to compare Hillary's clothing choices to Michelle Obama's. The First Lady has a totally different role than the Secretary of State. The expectations are different. Michelle Obama may be dressing in a more modern style, but she's been pretty traditional in the actual work she has taken on as First Lady; she has more in common with Barbara or Laura Bush than with the Hillary of the 1990s. I mean, how often does Michelle Obama have to worry about not being taken seriously?


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Yea, I really like the way Michelle dress when gardening, and the $500 shoes she wore to a free food giveaway...........says it all.

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That is petty and lame to focus on the clothing.

Now, if you want her to dress like a penguin and completely loose her femininity, I say no. I think she is striking a good balance. And, she is focused on her work..

So, Kate Betts, GET OVER IT! And if you want to compare, start comparing real work.

I for one am glad to see less articles about legs, calves, knees, elbows and wrinkles. More of MSM and left-wing has focused lately on her work as SOS and I would really like it to stay that way.



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Sanders, some weeks ago I signed up with a group of women (Lady Rothschild?)
project to get more women in focus on bill boards, and in education, etc.  It was
visual concepts for promoting women now, and in the pass.  I have  not heard from the group, and they might want to see this kind of article.

I can't find the group here, can you help?  thanks

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I don't understand why can't she dress however she wants.    They need to get over the facination with hillary's clothes and defitnely not compare her to big belt wearing current first lady.  They have decided to go the safe route with michelle so all anyone will care about her right now is what she's wearing and what fresh veggies she's feeding the kiddies today.

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Building 4112 wrote:

Sanders, some weeks ago I signed up with a group of women (Lady Rothschild?)
project to get more women in focus on bill boards, and in education, etc.  It was
visual concepts for promoting women now, and in the pass.  I have  not heard from the group, and they might want to see this kind of article.

I can't find the group here, can you help?  thanks


You probably mean "Equal Visibility Everywhere" started by Dr.Lynette Long
http://equalvisibilityeverywhere.org/

From: Lynette Long

Subject: FOR DISTRIBUTION
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:04 PM

Violet has created a beautiful flier for release about our organization. Please distribute widely.
It can be used in many different ways.   Print and take them with you.
Thanks again for your support.
Lynette
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Lynette Long, Ph.D.
Equal Visibility Everywhere
www.equalvisibilityeverywhere.org


If not that group, please let me know with anything else you recall about it.

The New Agenda would also probably like to know of the article at the top of the thread.

BTW, Lady Lynn Rothschild is being honored (I believe on May 6th) by The New Agenda.

-- Edited by Sanders on Wednesday 14th of April 2010 03:29:14 PM

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Well this Kate Betts is a regular rocket scientist, isn't she? With the very serious, world changing issues Hillary addresses daily, the best this woman can do is to criticize her clothes. GMAFB! Well, I guess she can't find any other flaws, so fashion will have to do. My guess is that as busy as Hillary is, fashion is the last thing on her mind - as is the case with many very intelligent, powerful women who are called upon to work non-stop. She does an excellent job, has an extremely high approval rating, and is focused on helping women the world over. She is dedicated to promoting women and women's rights - even for this author, who rather than thanking her or even just acknowledging the tirelessness and commitment with which Hillary does her job, has chosen to criticize her wardrobe?!?

In the words of the Church Lady, "Isn't that special?"

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Thank you so much Sanders!

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Freespirit - can you remember when they critized her for her "tears" in NH? It came from all angles, and when we said they were sexist, they denied it.

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Building 4112 wrote:

Freespirit - can you remember when they critized her for her "tears" in NH? It came from all angles, and when we said they were sexist, they denied it.




Oh, Building, How well I remember.  I recall how outraged we all were.  And, I swear, I can think about all of the sexist jokes and criticisms MSM made about A SITTING SENATOR and former first lady, running a serious campaign for the highest office in the land, and I get so angry I could spit nails.  How dare they?!  The small minded media hacks, who have done nothing greater than to write about what other people do, and THEY have the gall to attack this woman who has done so much to better the citizens of this country and the world?! Damn, I still can't believe all the crap that happened in 2008.



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Building the name of the group is Equal Visability Everywhere.  I love it.  We do have them posted.  One good thing about 2008 was the awaking of women.  Groups like EVE and TNA are going to help us get into the White House.
I am sick of women and men talking about nothing but fashion when it comes to women. First of all NOT all women like fashion.  I personally wear women's pants not baggy and sweats which is unisex.  I also like men Hoodies.
I think comparing fashion sense is ridiculas.  I don't give a damn about how MO dresses. Hillary wasn't the best dresser as First Lady but she was one hell of a First Lady. 
I am starting to hate Hillary in the role of SOS I am disquested by our policy in Isreal. I want her to get out.  I am still hoping she will use this as an excuse to run for Gov. of NY.


-- Edited by Hillarysmygirl16 on Thursday 15th of April 2010 04:17:43 PM

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Building 4112 wrote:

Thank you so much Sanders!


You're welcome! Yes, it is a good site. I showed it to my kid. :)

Definitely women need more visibility in all areas.

Visibility is one thing, endorsement is another. I would be very careful with endorsements to ensure they are qualified candidates. Hillary was and is a phenomenally accomplished woman who is fit for the top job.  I do not see another close to her; not at present.

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Building 4112 wrote:

Freespirit - can you remember when they critized her for her "tears" in NH? It came from all angles, and when we said they were sexist, they denied it.


Oh, Building, How well I remember.  I recall how outraged we all were.  And, I swear, I can think about all of the sexist jokes and criticisms MSM made about A SITTING SENATOR and former first lady, running a serious campaign for the highest office in the land, and I get so angry I could spit nails.  How dare they?!  The small minded media hacks, who have done nothing greater than to write about what other people do, and THEY have the gall to attack this woman who has done so much to better the citizens of this country and the world?! Damn, I still can't believe all the crap that happened in 2008.


Yes, freespirit, no single person comes anywhere close to what Hillary has accomplished; yet the level of ridicule hurled at her was incredible.. and it still is.   It's amazing how much she has done in her life and we are damned lucky.

Back to thinking about this article, I wonder if it is more acceptable to wear skirt and behave like men. I wonder if that makes women more acceptable to men.  what if such a person did not have a pro-female position or has no history of working for women's issues? Would that make the person a feminist or someone who is accomplished woman to endorse? I doubt it.  Yet, there are many out there who wear skirt and have no accomplishments to talk of that has anything to do with women but want all the women's votes and endorsements.  What's worse, they have all benefited from the serious work of women like Hillary and have nothing positive to say about Hillary. When she does work hard in her own best interest, she is dissed.  What for? Wearing color pantsuit? Being a loyal employee?  What a joke!  We can expect her to wear colored pantsuits and we can expect her to be a loyal person.

We should be lucky to get Hillary to run again.   If not, we will enjoy her as long as we can in her public life before she moves into private/corporate life.

 



-- Edited by Sanders on Thursday 15th of April 2010 03:18:50 PM

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